I am sorry? What are you saying. It is verified. Check the abgx website. PAL version is verified. FIFA 16 Pal is verified on abgx
He is saying that verification itself has no effect on the ISO file when running it through ABGX checks. Many games are still unverified on the database, even years after their official release date. And if you look at the date of his post, 15 days ago Fifa 16 wasn't on the database so that would be why it was failing verification.
My theory for unverified games on the ABGX database is that some scene release groups are not very popular because of the way they work. As they are occasionally the first source of some original scene releases (the games that we download), it may well be that the ABGX team refuse to "verify" their work. Just a theory, I could be 100% right OR wrong.
Either way it has no effect on the results of the checks made on an ISO file itself.
It was. FIFA 16 is on the database since 29 of Sept.
Yep Fifa 16 region free is still not verified and no ban on live for me and 3 other players using this back up copy. I would like to thank sarcastixx for all his valuable information in this post and his original post.
Call of duty black ops 3 also passes all checks except verification and i have been playing this on-line with no ban.
All checks green except verification = good to burn and play on-line!....Simple
He is saying that verification itself has no effect on the ISO file when running it through ABGX checks. Many games are still unverified on the database, even years after their official release date. And if you look at the date of his post, 15 days ago Fifa 16 wasn't on the database so that would be why it was failing verification.
My theory for unverified games on the ABGX database is that some scene release groups are not very popular because of the way they work. As they are occasionally the first source of some original scene releases (the games that we download), it may well be that the ABGX team refuse to "verify" their work. Just a theory, I could be 100% right OR wrong.
Either way it has no effect on the results of the checks made on an ISO file itself.
It was. FIFA 16 is on the database since 29 of Sept.
It seems long winded but its really valuable information! You wont find another thread like this on the internet because everyone else just assumes that the ISO must be verified before you can burn it. What this thread does is explain why that's not true and also why its safe to burn and play on-line.
YOU HAVE THE SAME CHANCE OF BEING BANNED IF THE ISO IS VERIFIED OR NOT AS LONG AS THE OTHER CHECKS ARE GREEN AND THE NON VERIFIED INFORMATION IS PRINTED IN YELLOW FOR INFORMATION ONLY
Guys its that's simple and I can prove this if anyone wants to message me.
Why wait weeks to play a game on-line when verification does nothing to alter the ISO in any way what so ever!
All checks green and not verified (printed in yellow) = good to burn and play on-line!
Checking for updates to GameNameLookup.csv and abgx360.dat... Server file GameNameLookup.csv no newer than local file - not retrieving Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
Checking Game ISO: "Rise of the Tomb Raider.iso" Size: 7838695424 bytes Files in ISO: 84, Folders in ISO: 2 Total bytes used: 6649186640 (91.10%) Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex Original PE Filename: IntermediateTR2.exe Original PE Timestamp: 2015/09/22 06:56:31 Min Kernel Required: v2.0.17349.0 Game Name: Rise of Tomb Raider No Avatar Awards Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore XEX CRC = 5669B63C XEX Media ID: 248055ED09F5261227E6C720-0A657B25
Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF Region Free!
Checking SS Timestamp of Authoring: 2015/09/25 00:00:00 Timestamp of Mastering: 2015/10/08 03:17:58 SS Version: 2 (trusted) SS CRC = 69D43D78 (RawSS = 7926A5D8) SS Media ID: 248055ED09F5261227E6C720-0A657B25 (matches game) SS looks valid
Checking PFI PFI CRC = F48D24B8 PFI does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Video partition found Checking L0 Video padding... L0 Video is zero padded Checking L1 Video padding... L1 Video is zero padded Video CRC = 3E92E705 (V0 = E750D890, V1 = 0D9F11D9) Video partition does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Stealth status is uncertain
Starting Verification Looking for 69D43D785669B63C.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of this Xex/SS combination in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex/SS combination Verification failed
Starting AutoFix Looking for Xex_5669B63C.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of Xex CRC 5669B63C in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex AutoFix Failed, Stealth is still uncertain
Checking for AnyDVD style game data corruption while running CRC check...
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel) Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries 100% 4:12 4:12 0:00 27.6 MB/s 31.1 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected Game CRC = 4FA7B62D
Checking for updates to GameNameLookup.csv and abgx360.dat... Server file GameNameLookup.csv no newer than local file - not retrieving Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
Checking Game ISO: "WRC5.iso" Size: 7838695424 bytes Files in ISO: 716, Folders in ISO: 114 Total bytes used: 4382047439 (60.04%) Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex Original PE Filename: WRC5_s.exe Original PE Timestamp: 2015/09/04 13:02:27 Min Kernel Required: v2.0.17349.0 Game Name: WRC5 No Avatar Awards Achievements: 37 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore XEX CRC = 47A9A826 XEX Media ID: D54C25C6AEFA89E1C826AD73-1841F064
Region Code: 0x00FF00FF PAL NTSC/U
Checking SS Timestamp of Authoring: 2015/09/07 00:00:00 Timestamp of Mastering: 2015/09/20 08:00:04 SS Version: 2 (trusted) SS CRC = 8A729DE6 (RawSS = 01C35F4C) SS Media ID: D54C25C6AEFA89E1C826AD73-1841F064 (matches game) SS looks valid
Checking PFI PFI CRC = F48D24B8 PFI does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Video partition found Checking L0 Video padding... L0 Video is zero padded Checking L1 Video padding... L1 Video is zero padded Video CRC = 3E92E705 (V0 = E750D890, V1 = 0D9F11D9) Video partition does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Stealth status is uncertain
Starting Verification Looking for 8A729DE647A9A826.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of this Xex/SS combination in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex/SS combination Verification failed
Starting AutoFix Looking for Xex_47A9A826.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of Xex CRC 47A9A826 in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex AutoFix Failed, Stealth is still uncertain
Checking for AnyDVD style game data corruption while running CRC check...
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel) Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries 100% 4:15 4:15 0:00 27.3 MB/s 28.8 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected Game CRC = E7AF4557
In the past, I would only ever have played a game once I was all green and verified.
Now it seems that Green and/or Yellow is okay, but anything with Red is not okay; am I comprehending this correctly?
Checking for updates to GameNameLookup.csv and abgx360.dat... Server file GameNameLookup.csv no newer than local file - not retrieving Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
Checking Game ISO: "Rise of the Tomb Raider.iso" Size: 7838695424 bytes Files in ISO: 84, Folders in ISO: 2 Total bytes used: 6649186640 (91.10%) Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex Original PE Filename: IntermediateTR2.exe Original PE Timestamp: 2015/09/22 06:56:31 Min Kernel Required: v2.0.17349.0 Game Name: Rise of Tomb Raider No Avatar Awards Achievements: 50 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore XEX CRC = 5669B63C XEX Media ID: 248055ED09F5261227E6C720-0A657B25
Region Code: 0xFFFFFFFF Region Free!
Checking SS Timestamp of Authoring: 2015/09/25 00:00:00 Timestamp of Mastering: 2015/10/08 03:17:58 SS Version: 2 (trusted) SS CRC = 69D43D78 (RawSS = 7926A5D8) SS Media ID: 248055ED09F5261227E6C720-0A657B25 (matches game) SS looks valid
Checking PFI PFI CRC = F48D24B8 PFI does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Video partition found Checking L0 Video padding... L0 Video is zero padded Checking L1 Video padding... L1 Video is zero padded Video CRC = 3E92E705 (V0 = E750D890, V1 = 0D9F11D9) Video partition does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Stealth status is uncertain
Starting Verification Looking for 69D43D785669B63C.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of this Xex/SS combination in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex/SS combination Verification failed
Starting AutoFix Looking for Xex_5669B63C.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of Xex CRC 5669B63C in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex AutoFix Failed, Stealth is still uncertain
Checking for AnyDVD style game data corruption while running CRC check...
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel) Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries 100% 4:12 4:12 0:00 27.6 MB/s 31.1 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected Game CRC = 4FA7B62D
Checking for updates to GameNameLookup.csv and abgx360.dat... Server file GameNameLookup.csv no newer than local file - not retrieving Server file abgx360.dat no newer than local file - not retrieving
Checking Game ISO: "WRC5.iso" Size: 7838695424 bytes Files in ISO: 716, Folders in ISO: 114 Total bytes used: 4382047439 (60.04%) Game appears to have random padding
Checking default.xex Original PE Filename: WRC5_s.exe Original PE Timestamp: 2015/09/04 13:02:27 Min Kernel Required: v2.0.17349.0 Game Name: WRC5 No Avatar Awards Achievements: 37 Achievements totaling 1000 Gamerscore XEX CRC = 47A9A826 XEX Media ID: D54C25C6AEFA89E1C826AD73-1841F064
Region Code: 0x00FF00FF PAL NTSC/U
Checking SS Timestamp of Authoring: 2015/09/07 00:00:00 Timestamp of Mastering: 2015/09/20 08:00:04 SS Version: 2 (trusted) SS CRC = 8A729DE6 (RawSS = 01C35F4C) SS Media ID: D54C25C6AEFA89E1C826AD73-1841F064 (matches game) SS looks valid
Checking PFI PFI CRC = F48D24B8 PFI does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Video partition found Checking L0 Video padding... L0 Video is zero padded Checking L1 Video padding... L1 Video is zero padded Video CRC = 3E92E705 (V0 = E750D890, V1 = 0D9F11D9) Video partition does not match known data (probably corrupt but might be a brand new wave if this is a new game and abgx360.dat hasn't been updated yet)
Stealth status is uncertain
Starting Verification Looking for 8A729DE647A9A826.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of this Xex/SS combination in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex/SS combination Verification failed
Starting AutoFix Looking for Xex_47A9A826.ini in the online verified database There is no verified rip of Xex CRC 47A9A826 in the online database Failed to find a verified ini file for this Xex AutoFix Failed, Stealth is still uncertain
Checking for AnyDVD style game data corruption while running CRC check...
Checking Game CRC... (press Q to cancel) Percent Elapsed Estimated Time Average Current Errors Total Done Time Time Left Speed Speed Recovered Retries 100% 4:15 4:15 0:00 27.3 MB/s 28.8 MB/s
AnyDVD style corruption was not detected Game CRC = E7AF4557
In the past, I would only ever have played a game once I was all green and verified.
Now it seems that Green and/or Yellow is okay, but anything with Red is not okay; am I comprehending this correctly?
i have the same question..ive been waiting weeks to play the tomb raider game..yea i also wait till its all green in the agbx database before playing online ..........i have the same output as you in abgx ...
The new wave is not verified by ABGX at this moment in time.
Yes Tomb Raider has the new wave and its not yet verified.
The guide ABGX the facts and the myths does not cover this eventuality and at this moment in time there is no way of knowing if the ISO with the new wave is on-line safe.
I can confirm that both Tomb Raider and snoopy both have the new wave and work fine on my off line Xbox console. I have not tested it on-line as i don't want to risk a ban.
When ABGX do eventually verify the new wave i can test my already burnt discs to see if they are on-line safe or not. If they are then we will know in the future that un-verified new waves are on-line safe. If ABGX reports that basic stealth is not verified (or it needs to patch the new wave) to my already burnt discs then we will know that new wave ISO's are not safe.
The only way to know for sure is to wait, or risk a ban with fingers crossed.
I will post the results of my new wave burnt discs when the new wave has been up loaded to the data base.
If ABGX does not verify the new wave soon i will go ahead and play the games on-line myself to test if its safe or not. My hunch is they are safe as the ISO's are from reputable sources.
So ABGX has a week from now to verify the new wave and if it don't I have a on-line Xbox that's on its last legs anyway to test it on.
I'll keep an eye on this post for your test results...
In the meanwhile, if I was to borrow my friends original RotTR disc, would I be able to check the copy I have against that?
An alternative would be to rip the game myself (I have a spare Xbox 360 Benq VAD6038 drive that I can flash to rip games with). The notes about the 0800 firmware for the drive says: "Using Xbox Backup Creator, rips full ISO (XGD2 and XGD3), including correct AP2.5 topology data. All necessary stealth practices still apply, and it remains the responsibility of the user to verify the stealth of their ISOs with abgx360."
The part where it says "...it remains the responsibility of the user to verify the stealth of their ISOs with abgx360" makes me think that even if I do my own rip from an original disc, I still need to verify it on ABGX, which in turn is the reason why I am an all green person.
Yes, as long as there is NO RED in an abgx output, then it is safe to burn. There are no excptions, no ifs, no buts. IT IS SAFE. Yellow and green are BOTH acceptable. ABGX itself will inform you if an ISO is not fit for burning.
As for being safe online and ban risking, this is always the case, no matter how stealthed our ISO files are. What I will say, is that when it comes to new releases, I have ALWAYS played them a few days earlier than official release and had no problems. What would be silly, would be playing a game that was leaked mega early, like Halo 4 or Gears Of War Judgement for example.
Both of those games resulted in the banhammer hitting hard and fast and had nothing to do with not being added to the ABGX database yet.
People need to understand that running an ABGX check will only tell if the ISO is fit to burn. You can still have a bad burn which is no fault of the ISO file nor ABGX itself.
Playing a game that is not yet in the database means absolutely nothing, and adds no risk whatsoever with regards to being banned. Zadda. Zilch. Zero. As said before, only exception would be an early leak.
Yes it is me, the original Super Mod from Xbox Pirate and TheGameScene!
I'll keep an eye on this post for your test results...
In the meanwhile, if I was to borrow my friends original RotTR disc, would I be able to check the copy I have against that?
An alternative would be to rip the game myself (I have a spare Xbox 360 Benq VAD6038 drive that I can flash to rip games with). The notes about the 0800 firmware for the drive says: "Using Xbox Backup Creator, rips full ISO (XGD2 and XGD3), including correct AP2.5 topology data. All necessary stealth practices still apply, and it remains the responsibility of the user to verify the stealth of their ISOs with abgx360."
The part where it says "...it remains the responsibility of the user to verify the stealth of their ISOs with abgx360" makes me think that even if I do my own rip from an original disc, I still need to verify it on ABGX, which in turn is the reason why I am an all green person.
You can save a whole lot of time ripping games with an 0800 drive by not including the AP25/6 sector data. The median topology data used by ABGX will be able to answer any and all AP challenges flung at it by any dvd drive. All you need to do is have the "disable writes" unchecked and autofix at level 3 before launching it.
As for waiting for database verification (to have it ALL green), that is down to preference. The point of the tutorial was to explain why it is not necessary to wait for that.
Yes it is me, the original Super Mod from Xbox Pirate and TheGameScene!
People are getting messages about PFI data and the Video partitions because it is indeed a new wave that is being used for new releases.
As soon as ABGX is upadted with the new .dat file to cover the new wave (20) then those messages will dissapear. Dash 16537 is for wave 19 and new releases for the latest dash are wave 20. (Confirmed by QuickMythril from the TX forum). New games requiring dash 17349 to boot will all have these messages in yellow text by the abgx check.
My guess would be that because the other stealth checks are giving green then it should be safe enough to burn and play online. So long as the ISO is from the usual sources then there should be no problem with it.
Credit to QuickMythril on the TX team for confirming the corresponding wave/dash info.
Last Edit: Nov 24, 2015 15:54:17 GMT by sarcastixx
Yes it is me, the original Super Mod from Xbox Pirate and TheGameScene!
Fantastic news. So the ISO will be no safer waiting for the new wave to be verified so get burning!!
i burnt the game finally..couldnt wait anymore game burnt/verified 100 percent installed to hdd 100 percent the title update wasnt downloadiung for some reason so i downloaded the title update from the internet and injected the title update manually via horizon gonna play story mode when connected to xbox live it is fine right?
It's safe to play online, I don't know if injecting the title update will effect it as mine downloaded fine.
I think the dvd isn't spinning in my drive...when it was installing the title update.. Weird.. Only this game... The drive is silent when i play the game Usually the drive used to spin for 2-3 mins before going silent for other games aftr installing to hdd ...... Oh well...